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    Quote Originally Posted by El Jinete II View Post
    Oh but the JDS and Cain fans are the highly annoying ones?

    Unless horse meat fixes weak chins Reem is getting owned by both Dos Santos and Velazquez.
    Saying you believe fighter a poses little risk to fighter b doesn't make you annoying. Screaming how fighter a is the best fighter in the world after 1 win is annoying, that is the difference.

    Also, Cain's chin isn't the greatest, Kongo dropped him how many times and JDS finished him. JDS has a solid chin but loses his composure after taking big shots. Cain poses a big challenge to Overeem, a great wrestler with a lot of cardio spells trouble to a guy that gasses and wilts. I still think Overeem wrecks JDS but I wouldn't put any money on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Floyd1982 View Post
    Saying you believe fighter a poses little risk to fighter b doesn't make you annoying. Screaming how fighter a is the best fighter in the world after 1 win is annoying, that is the difference.

    Also, Cain's chin isn't the greatest, Kongo dropped him how many times and JDS finished him. JDS has a solid chin but loses his composure after taking big shots. Cain poses a big challenge to Overeem, a great wrestler with a lot of cardio spells trouble to a guy that gasses and wilts. I still think Overeem wrecks JDS but I wouldn't put any money on it.
    On the first point, when you say A fighter is better, you just "say it". However, when we say B fighter is better, we "scream it". Got it. Awesome.

    On the second point, Gsp doesn't have the best chin on the WW division either. That doesn't change the fact that he is the greatest WW of all time. Hey, just like Cain is the best HW in the world. Just saying it, not screaming it.

    Oh, and if a B HW like Kharitonov can KO the fuque out the Reem, I'm going to say that the second best HW in the world can do the same.

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    Overeem aside, I think the same of Cain and JDS. I hope Alistair does great, I'm a huge fan and I think one of the easier big fights for him is junior.

    There are also some flat out terrible match ups for him in the UFC. Cormier and Cain look like they'd walk through him. It's not some disrespectful thing to say Alistair should have an easy time with Juniour. That's just the nature of that division. Someone is usually getting owned.


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    Somehow JDS packing muscle may have done him more harm than good, reckon he got burned out earlier from the lactic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Jinete II View Post
    On the first point, when you say A fighter is better, you just "say it". However, when we say B fighter is better, we "scream it". Got it. Awesome.

    On the second point, Gsp doesn't have the best chin on the WW division either. That doesn't change the fact that he is the greatest WW of all time. Hey, just like Cain is the best HW in the world. Just saying it, not screaming it.

    Oh, and if a B HW like Kharitonov can KO the fuque out the Reem, I'm going to say that the second best HW in the world can do the same.
    Claiming somebody is the baddest mofo on the planet after an impressive performance is annoying, especially when they have a recent loss or sub-par showing. Nuthugging is annoying, being melodramatic is worse, this is what a lot of fans do and LA was pointing it out. Saying JDS doesn't have much for Overeem is not the same thing at all. Okay? Got it? Awesome...

    Cain is the best HW because he just beat the champ but calling him the best ever or thinking he is unbeatable is stupid and asinine. GSP has plowed through people for te last 5 years, little bit different scenario buckshot.

    Oh and if a guy can get wrecked like that by Cain, I'm going to say a HW that KTFO of Badr Hari, Aerts, and Spong will eat him for lunch... Fighter math doesn't work...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Floyd1982 View Post
    Claiming somebody is the baddest mofo on the planet after an impressive performance is annoying, especially when they have a recent loss or sub-par showing. Nuthugging is annoying, being melodramatic is worse, this is what a lot of fans do and LA was pointing it out. Saying JDS doesn't have much for Overeem is not the same thing at all. Okay? Got it? Awesome...

    Cain is the best HW because he just beat the champ but calling him the best ever or thinking he is unbeatable is stupid and asinine. GSP has plowed through people for te last 5 years, little bit different scenario buckshot.

    Oh and if a guy can get wrecked like that by Cain, I'm going to say a HW that KTFO of Badr Hari, Aerts, and Spong will eat him for lunch... Fighter math doesn't work...
    Who in here has stated that Cain is the best HW ever? When I was comparing GSP and Cain, I was saying that they both had questionable chins and they still were on top of their divisions. I never say he was the best HW ever. Now, to say that Cain is the best HW today because he "just" beat Dos Santos is asinine. Cain is the best HW in the world because he has the best resume among his peers.

    And who is being melodramatic? You are the one who came to the rescue of your boyfriend like if we were on high school. Last time I check LA can handle his business pretty well. I don't know why his soul mate needs to come running to defend him, got it? Awesome.

    As far as Dos Santos vs Overeem, it will happen eventually. If the Reem can Pisa clean of course. For the record, I think Allister is the third best HW in the world and potentially wreck any man in the world. I just happen to think Velazquez and Dos Santos would beat him. For all we know these three man might end up passing the belt around on the next couple of years. For now, Cain is the man.

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    i dont know about you guys but in that first round especially, Cain was blatantly overcommitting and reaching and nearly got caught several times.


    if Overeem isn't super conservative and not throwing **** because he is afraid of the takedown, he could definitely take Cain's head off for that ****.
    and junior, style wise, doesnt have **** for Overeem IMO. Alistair should eat up a leg heavy boxer who doesn't shoot takedowns

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    The Reem picked Cain


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Abortion View Post
    The only good thing if JDS won was an easy title fight for Ubereem. Yeah that amazing stand up and that completely fabricated ground game will definitely stop the Reem. JDS is as easy a fight as lesnar was for him. I still can't and never have understood what junior has for Alistair. His hugely inferior striking, his made up BJJ skills?
    come on dude ..................... lol

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