Do Bonds, Clemons, and Sosa deserve to make the Hall of Fame?

[Tapout2.2]

yeah, me too. Why doesn't everyone wear one? Must feel ackward but if you can stand on the plate that hurts the pitcher.

Bonds was a helluva player, but he was also a mega douche. Which is why i think only a handful of players ever really wore one. I think most players have slightly more respect then he did.

[goordie]

Piazza is the only guy from this next eligibility class that I would vote in next year if I was on the committee.

[ocmmafan]

Piazza is the only guy from this next eligibility class that I would vote in next year if I was on the committee.

Yeah. Might be a good year for tweeners like Jack Morris, Tim Raines and Lee Smith. Bagwell should definitely get in pretty soon.

[goordie]

Yeah. Might be a good year for tweeners like Jack Morris, Tim Raines and Lee Smith. Bagwell should definitely get in pretty soon.

I've always been iffy on Morris getting in, leaning towards no, but I'd rather see a player like him get in than known shitheads and advantage seekers like Clemons and Bonds.

Raines never seemed Hall of fame level to me, but when reviewing his career it just might be impressive enough.. I like Bagwell, but if he deserves to be in, then so do all the other guys you listed.

[!purerockfury!]

Bonds is my all time favorite athlete so of course I think he belongs. 3 mvps while he wieghed 170-180 should be enough of an argument. If he came out like Andy Petitte and admitted to using, IMO he would get in easily. Instead, he was the most arrogant, cocky, disrespectful player of his era and has had a horrible relationship with the media throughout his whole career. I guarantee there will be many, many members of the media who will have a HUGE smile on their face while they quickly scroll right past Bonds name and check the next one on the list.

My views on clemens are pretty much the same as Bonds. If he admitted his guilt and had a better relationship with the media, he would get in. Instead, he will be waiting for a hell of a long time.

I never liked Sosa and believe all of his numbers are the result of roids, BUT 660 is no joke and he was one of the leading mashers during the juice era. It would be hard to leave him out.

IMO, Craig Biggio is going to benefit from all of this. He had a very solid career playing three positions and could do it all. Obviously getting to 3000 helps his chances.

Since Bylevin finally got in, the biggest travesty (aside from ROSE) is Jack Morris. To steal a line from Swingers, "jack Morris is money, baby." I dont have time to look up his career numbers, but he was one of the last true work horses who didnt give a **** about pitch counts and all that jazz. He was a bull dog who wanted the ****ing ball.

[~ViSioN~]

jack morris has more wins then any pitcher of the 1980's( during the 80's ). He should be in the hall

[BJPENNSTATE]

Bonds.yes.

Clemens and Sosa, no.

Bonds was pre roids when he won his 3 MVPS

[ocmmafan]

Bonds.yes.

Clemens and Sosa, no.

Bonds was pre roids when he won his 3 MVPS

No because of roids? How do you know when Clemens starting using? Seems tough to try and make a distinction of "when" to determine HOF worthiness. Clemens was dominate almost immediately and surely had plenty of clean years.

[Tapout2.2]

Bonds.yes.

Clemens and Sosa, no.

Bonds was pre roids when he won his 3 MVPS

Clemens was in the league two years before Bonds my man. Clemens won the cy young and MVP award in Bonds rookie year. Clemens deserves to be in. All three do.

[CaveBear]

Wait, am in wrong in saying that of the 3, only Sosa has actually ever tested positive?

I'm pretty sure Clemens and Bonds, never actually failed a test during their careers.

Regardless, Clemens and Bonds, most definitely should be in IMO and if Sosa gets in thats fine by me as well.

EDIT: I'm certainly not saying they didnt use, just that its really never been proven.


Heh, my 1st MLB post