Future FC Discussion

[FA-Qer]

So the numbers weren't great this time around and it got me to thinking. What can we do to spark more interest? What would get more people to sign up and more importantly, finish and post pics?

I'm thinking about a buy in.

Hear me out.

Somewhere between $10-20. I would be willing to shell out the cash for a small PO box and I'd take on the treasury duties** as far as sending money to the winners. Participants would be required to sign up AND have their buy in postmarked by the designated date. Upon completing the contest, and getting the judges decision, the top three would be awarded their cash prize. I think the fairest way would be either of the following:

1st place- 60%
2nd place- 25%
3rd place- 15%

So 20 entries @ $10 each would pay

1st- $120
2nd-$50
3rd-$30

Of course the details would need to be worked out between previous presidents and myself and later voted on by members.

Seeing as how money would be involved, we would have to be much less lenient with the rules and EVERYONE would have to do it the way it is stated in the rules or face elimination. Still, I really think it would help people stay motivated and see this thing through. Let me know what you guys think.


**I have sent numerous items to multiple members (Buffdaddy, Baph, Pickled and Phantom can back me up on this) and I assure everyone that their money and personal information would be safe and destroyed once the prizes were sent. The reason for the PO box is honestly because I just don't want my personal address out there for the world to see.

[Derek3x]

Interesting idea. Exchange rates?

I just think some time between the next one will do the trick.

Everyone seems to get all excited about it and they never finish it.

Only problem with the 10 buck thing is you might only get 6 guys going in. Like this one was free and only 23 people started it.

[Lines]

One thought that came to my mind, that might attract people trying to lose a significant amount of weight (say 30 to 100 pounds), is to have a Fitness Competition that might be longer than 12 weeks. Perhaps from January through June....or even through December. This way they can say...hey, if I just lose 1/2 a pound or a pound a week, I'm really going to show some significant changes when this is over!
Someone starting at 240, losing a pound a week over the 52 weeks, would end up in the 180's (if their body frame allowed it and it was healthy for them to be there.)

So there might be more than one FC going on at the same time........just a thought... :)

[goDsnataS]

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/goDsnataS666/guinness_commercial.jpg
Brilliant!

[FA-Qer]

I think pretty much everyone can shell out ten bucks. AS far as exchange rates, that is a good question and I guess we'd turn to you and PP to help fine tune that seeing as how both of you probably have more experience with that.

I really think that a small entry fee with the opportunity to win a decent prize may intrigue more members.

If any members wanted to go head to head with side bets, we could arrange that too.

I just want to see more people get involved and start on a healthier path. If prize money is the catalyst, so be it.

FC's kill fad diets, create lifestyles and forge champions. Too great to not take to the next level.

[Dave The Shocker]

Why a P.O. box, FAQ?

Create a paypal account, and have people send the buy in via internet. Much easier. Then when you have to send the winner the money, you can just send it right back to their account. Paypal will hold the money, so it wont just be sitting around in the meantime.

$20 is a good buy in. That way, its enough to where people wanna win the $200 grand prize, and its not too much of a setback to pay the buy in.

Exchange rate: Whatever the buy in is in american dollars, put however much of your own currency until it translates to american$$

[goDsnataS]

I really don't think a longer layoff is the solution. The timing was just off. I really believe people will be fired up and ready to go as soon as the holidays are behind them. The longer we wait, the less motivated people will be. We should work with the calendar, not against it.

[math is hard]

If this turns into a cash competition, I won't sign up again. I signed up to have some motivation to improve my lifestyle, not to win a prize. The prize is being healthier and stronger, not beating some dudes on the internet in a contest with a pretty arbitrary judging system.

[Ninja Style]

I think timing hurt this one as well. It was killer having this one end right after Thanksgiving. I get the feeling we lost a few people as we got closer to the holidays.

I like the idea of the buy in and I'd be down for that. My concern is that if there is a fee to join that it might drastically lower the number of people who we have sign up initially.

The problem we're having is getting the ones who signed up to see it through to the end. I was thinking the team thing would help by pairing up a vet with a noob but that didn't really work out.

[Derek3x]

If this turns into a cash competition, I won't sign up again. I signed up to have some motivation to improve my lifestyle, not to win a prize. The prize is being healthier and stronger, not beating some dudes on the internet in a contest with a pretty arbitrary judging system.

That hurts. Whats wrong with my judging? lol


nah, see that is the kinda thing I meant by my comments of people not signing up if its a cash thing.

lets get some more ideas flowing in. I would like to hear B-dids and PP get in on this. Also HS.

[Dave The Shocker]

I think timing hurt this one as well. It was killer having this one end right after Thanksgiving. I get the feeling we lost a few people as we got closer to the holidays.

I like the idea of the buy in and I'd be down for that. My concern is that if there is a fee to join that it might drastically lower the number of people who we have sign up initially.

The problem we're having is getting the ones who signed up to see it through to the end. I was thinking the team thing would help by pairing up a vet with a noob but that didn't really work out.

I know in the past there have been 2 teams, I think?

In the future, it should be 4 teams.

With 2 teams, theres one captain responsible for how many guys?

With 4, its one guy responsible for a smaller group of guys, so he can concentrate more on keeping THEM focused. More individual attention.


EDIT- I judged the last 2 FC's....am I judging this one?

[bigystyle]

I'd be down for the buyin. The Paypal idea came to me right away as well, but Im good with anything.


I really want to see one of these things through. Wonder if any interest in a Heavyweight FC aka biggest loser style? Be kind of interesting while we iron the regular FCs out. I wish this thing was starting right now

[Derek3x]

EDIT- I judged the last 2 FC's....am I judging this one?


Currently there are six-seven judges (more may be added). They are Buffdaddy (head judge since FC1), epkenpo (judge in FC1 & FC2 and a monster competitor in FC3), Derek3X (judge since FC1 and supplier of workout articles), ThePhantom (3rd place finisher of FC3), CnS (prior judge and handstand motivator), Dave The Shocker (prior judge aka GJJ) and potentially the winner of FC4 if he chooses to sit out and not defend his title.

[Dave The Shocker]

Currently there are six-seven judges (more may be added). They are Buffdaddy (head judge since FC1), epkenpo (judge in FC1 & FC2 and a monster competitor in FC3), Derek3X (judge since FC1 and supplier of workout articles), ThePhantom (3rd place finisher of FC3), CnS (prior judge and handstand motivator), Dave The Shocker (prior judge aka GJJ) and potentially the winner of FC4 if he chooses to sit out and not defend his title.

cool. I just havent heard from Bdiddler, so I wasnt sure if he removed me or anything.

[FA-Qer]

One thought that came to my mind, that might attract people trying to lose a significant amount of weight (say 30 to 100 pounds), is to have a Fitness Competition that might be longer than 12 weeks. Perhaps from January through June....or even through December. This way they can say...hey, if I just lose 1/2 a pound or a pound a week, I'm really going to show some significant changes when this is over!
Someone starting at 240, losing a pound a week over the 52 weeks, would end up in the 180's (if their body frame allowed it and it was healthy for them to be there.)

So there might be more than one FC going on at the same time........just a thought... :)

Duration is a huge factor. I think 3 months is a bit too long for some people, especially beginners. I don't want people to feel as if they can't commit and I also don't want people to over commit. Three months is a long time when you're making changes in your life.

I was thinking a two month FC would be good for getting people back into it. I do like the idea of a long term project but I don't know if we could get enough guys to commit to a 6-12 month FC but we can definitely set up an event that would run every six months or so.

[Derek3x]

Either have I. I dont even know if my picks are due today or not

[Dave The Shocker]

Duration is a huge factor. I think 3 months is a bit too long for some people, especially beginners. I don't want people to feel as if they can't commit and I also don't want people to over commit. Three months is a long time when you're making changes in your life.

I was thinking a two month FC would be good for getting people back into it. I do like the idea of a long term project but I don't know if we could get enough guys to commit to a 6-12 month FC but we can definitely set up an event that would run every six months or so.

Also-

With a 2-3 month FC...you should have tiers.

Like Tier 1, 2, 3.

So Instead of guys looking to reach the Finale...have them set on reaching the first tier....then 2nd....then 3rd.

[Ninja Style]

I know in the past there have been 2 teams, I think?

In the future, it should be 4 teams.

With 2 teams, theres one captain responsible for how many guys?

With 4, its one guy responsible for a smaller group of guys, so he can concentrate more on keeping THEM focused. More individual attention.


EDIT- I judged the last 2 FC's....am I judging this one?

I think the idea of 4 teams with 4 captains is good. We'd have to find some vets who are willing to do that but I think the extra individual attention could be a big help.

Maybe we can add some extra awards at the end like:

-Rookie of the Year: For first time competitors
-Comeback Competitor: For someone who has started one but hasn't finished one.

stuff like that maybe?

[FA-Qer]

I really think that a small entry fee with the opportunity to win a decent prize may intrigue more members.

I just want to see more people get involved and start on a healthier path. If prize money is the catalyst, so be it.

FC's kill fad diets, create lifestyles and forge champions. Too great to not take to the next level.

If this turns into a cash competition, I won't sign up again. I signed up to have some motivation to improve my lifestyle, not to win a prize. The prize is being healthier and stronger, not beating some dudes on the internet in a contest with a pretty arbitrary judging system.


I assure you that that is the main goal. Unfortunately, things have slowed down. It's not like anyof us make money or sit around high fiving about how someone got screwed. This is all about helping one another make positive changes. For all we know, a 300 pounder can drop 50lbs, win and put the 100-200 dollars towards a few pairs of pants for their new found body.

I think we can easily have overall judging for all contestents and judging for the paid members as well.

We're not going Zuffa on this thing ;) , just trying to get the blood pumping again.

Nothing is in stone but I'm glad people are talking and laying out the ideas.

We will COLLECTIVELY decide what is best for the future of the FC's.

[pickledpunk]

I dont like the cash idea as its a huge deteient for many to sign up.

I also want to make some comments about increasing length, extra awards, etc ...

We once held a poll and people wanted us to do a 16 week one but w limited it to 12 anyways and told everyone lets see if you can make it through the 12 weeks first. I think we had 40+ people sign up and only ~12 people finish. Making the FC longer wont help make it easier to get through.

Secondly we incresed the awards for FC 3 but we didnt have enough peopel finishing to actually give out the extra awards. Unless we are seeing 20+ finish it doesnt make sence to make a ton of catagories.

I think tradition has shown us the two times where peopel finish these things are after NYs and to get in shapre before/during summer. The two times we have attempted to do a FC in the fall/winter we havent had good results (many people finishing).

Back to buyin ... if you want to have prize motivation then make a bet with a fellow FC particpant (like the famed cake bet).

[FA-Qer]

Unless we can get back to the days of donated gifts from members.

I'd be more than willing to do something like that. I will be sitting out the next FC regardless as I really want to focus on taking this to the next level. I have gotten so much and I hope I have helped or motivated others equally.

Again, I am just trying to get the gears turning and find a way to get more entries and way more finshers.

[Ninja Style]

FAQer I don't think you sitting out would help.

I think you really motivate and help everyone when you compete.

just my 2 cents.

[ThePhantom]

Unless we can get back to the days of donated gifts from members.

I'd be more than willing to do something like that. I will be sitting out the next FC regardless as I really want to focus on taking this to the next level. I have gotten so much and I hope I have helped or motivated others equally.

Again, I am just trying to get the gears turning and find a way to get more entries and way more finshers.


You can always count on me sending a Tee or two if need be ..... which makes me wonder -- did I say I would for this contest? I thought maybe I did.


and my 2 cents or suggestion on FC6 if I can .....

be great if we had a fitness section / group devoted to those guys who are in shape. I love these contests but I cant compete b/c any changes I make now are not real noticeable so I wont win ;) and well, if there nothing to win, why play :) j/k, sort of --- I mean I liked competing b/c I like competing with people, and though I bust my ass longer and harder then most training I'll never win!!!!


I want to put a challenge out to the epkenpo's, buffdaddy's and anyone else already in good shape to compete in a new division.

any takers or am I talking like a fool? :)

[bigystyle]

You can always count on me sending a Tee or two if need be ..... which makes me wonder -- did I say I would for this contest? I thought maybe I did.


and my 2 cents or suggestion on FC6 if I can .....

be great if we had a fitness section / group devoted to those guys who are in shape. I love these contests but I cant compete b/c any changes I make now are not real noticeable so I wont win ;) and well, if there nothing to win, why play :) j/k, sort of --- I mean I liked competing b/c I like competing with people, and though I bust my ass longer and harder then most training I'll never win!!!!


I want to put a challenge out to the epkenpo's, buffdaddy's and anyone else already in good shape to compete in a new division.

any takers or am I talking like a fool? :)

Sounds like a good deal there. I agree with you there.

I'd like to have a division for the 250+. Even if it was just 4 of us...if 1 of us loses 50 lbs in 3 mths, it will usually win... when somebody like Phantom above could work just as hard to get a smaller result due to the shape hes already in and not win. A goal is a goal.

I just want another FC to start ASAP. January 1st. hell make it monday. I want to finish one.

[rocketman766]

Ok, took me a while to get in on this, but this is just my 2cents...
I am ok with a buy in, I spend 10 or 20 bucks all the time without thinking about it. If you don't want to buy in, then you can still compete, but will not be eligible for the cash prize, but WILL be eligible for 1st place and the Fitness Star!
Exchange rates...if the money is being held in the US, convert to US, that way we are all on an even field as far as money goes.
I really like the idea of the longer times for guys in the 300# club or close who is looking to lose 50 or more pounds. I started at 290lbs and in 4 months I lost 40 lbs... but that was before I discovered the FCs.
I like the team concept also...(TEAM Running With Scissors 4Life!) It really helped me to have someone to ask questions and bounce ideas of off while competing against the others.
I would be up for donating a tee shirt or two, or give some money to someone else who is getting the shirts for others.. on that note, I was thinking about making my own, with something like...."I survived FC5...ask me for details..." on the back and something on the front...just a thought...
did I miss anything???
OH YEAH, FA-Qrer sitting out FC6????????? (holding back my emotions....).

[Lines]

Monday, January 5th, appears to a logical start date for the next FC.

Other thoughts:
a) challenge other websites (such as MMA Junkie), to a head-to-head
fitness challenge (sounds like alot of work though.)
This way we are all teammates (representing different divisions, too)

b) keep the "free section" and for those who desire, add the "pay in"
section. This way there is something for everyone.

c) T-shirts for all competitors (or all finishing competitors),
is again a thought.

[Derek3x]

I don't know guys. The more I think about the buy in idea, the more I think its a bad idea.

We already have a trophy for the winner (thanks dids)

I think we should keep it as is, and do the head to heads if people want. FC4 had some head to head comps for extra motivation.

not enough people are finishing to split up groups.

[FA-Qer]

I agree about no buy in. Again, my reason for bringing it up was to get more people motivated and involved. I think this thread somewhat succeeded in that area.

I like the idea of getting back to match ups and donated gifts. . I like champ vs champ or vet vs vet and especially 300lber vs 300lber.

I retract my buy in suggestion and keep this contest pure. It's about healthy changes and pride.

[Ninja Style]

bringing back the head to head is a good idea me thinks.

I like those ideas FAQ

Champ vs Champ
Vet vs Vet
300lber vs 300lber
etc.

[Lines]

Yeah, besides the general overall FC category, head-to-head sounds good.

And perhaps an overall MMA Weekly Mr/Mrs. Fit!

ThePhantom would fall into this category. A person doesn't have to submit starting pics, it is just the ending pictures which matter. The person voted most fit would be the winner. I personally would enjoy this competition as a fan of fitness.

[IE_Grappler]

As someone who's competed in most, and failed to finish one. I think a shorter FC would get more finishers.

[rocketman766]

Ok, so the buy in is out the window??? Im cool with that. I like the head to head thing to. I think we can all find someone in a condition close to our own to go up against. I know Champ Vs Champ would be good... after Baph heals, would love to see FA-Qer VS Baph and PP as the two time champ can either go against me (being hopeful still...) or he can battle himself or get geared up to take on the winner of FA-Q vs Baph.... Would love to see some 300+ head to heads... That is where some real noticeable differences can be made. I think there are a few vets I wouldn't mind going up against in a vet vs vet show down.

[rocketman766]

As someone who's competed in most, and failed to finish one. I think a shorter FC would get more finishers.

Not sure what keeps you from finishing, but what if it were longer, would it give you time to jump back into it if you get the fire burning again? Maybe more time to see more results?

Also, maybe we do some MINI challenges. I know we had some monthly challenges before, but maybe we can bring them back for those who don't want to go for the long haul???

[bigystyle]

I'm down for the over 300 pound class. hell Im closer to 400.

Im gain to start this now, and then continue it in the next FC. Can create a thread for updates.

Any takers out there for over 300+ club who want to get healthy?

[FA-Qer]

I strongly believe we should try one or two 60 day FC's and see if we have more people finish.

I understand that more can get done in three months but many of the people signing up are still trying to get started. I would prefer to cater to that demographic than the already in shape and successful vets.



The 4 teams idea is very interesting. I think we could make something like that happen.

Rocket and I really busted our asses and went so far as to make our own forum so we could discuss and update amongst each other. I feel it was a great support system. I've been doing this for quite some time now and there were a few morning that I didn't feel like hitting the gym. Once I checked our forum and saw that he had posted an update, I knew it wasn't an option.

Teams and head to heads just seem to be the general consensus.


Baph vs FA-Qer is becoming more legendary than Chuck vs Wand and Randy vs Fedor...

[conk2000]

I am around 310 and ready for another shot at an FC. Would I be considered in the 300 club or not.

I had an idea to have one long contest, like a year, with a bunch of mini FC's during it like checkpoints. The longer you stay in, the bigger the prize. I don't have it all worked in my head, but I think it could work.

[bigystyle]

I am around 310 and ready for another shot at an FC. Would I be considered in the 300 club or not.

I had an idea to have one long contest, like a year, with a bunch of mini FC's during it like checkpoints. The longer you stay in, the bigger the prize. I don't have it all worked in my head, but I think it could work.


if your down for it im game. could do comparisons for first bit based on % of weight lost head to head

[rocketman766]

Now were talking...first head to head? Percentage is a good idea.

[Ray433]

Not a fan of the money buy in. Just seems like another thing that people wouldn't get done on time and thus remove them from the FC.

I really like the idea of 4 teams with previous winners/vets as captains. Teams can be made by the judges following the submitting of before pictures in an attempt to make them even in regards to body types etc on each team. Think the IFL, but successful. Guys of similar build can talk smack to their counterpart on other teams. Then there is a winning team, and an overall winner.

[dasmike]

I think the buy in idea could have been ok, but I have doubts about whether it would actually have gotten any extra numbers to sign up (or finish). It's also something that could easily organized amongst a group of interested competitors once the next FC starts. ie. after sign ups just ask if anyone wants in on a sort of mini-league. I know I'd have no qualms putting up $10 for the prize. I'd maybe even stretch to £10 :D

I think I'll probably enter the next FC. I didn't bother with this one because I was in a bit of a rut and just wanted to try and up my game myself without worrying about needing to get it done in a certain time period. I changed up a few things (started focusing on one muscle group per workout) and feel fresh and ready to step up to the plate again!

I feel bad about bringing any negative talk into this forum, but with regards to the small number of people finishing I just think that most people lack the will and motivation. There are a lot of people that talk the talk but, in my opinion anyway, it was obvious from the start they were never going to finish. I can't stress enough that I'm not saying that EVERYONE who entered but didn't finish didn't have a good excuse. And afterall, it's non of my business what everyone's reason for not finishing was. You only have to answer to yourself. If you honestly know that you couldn't have tried any harder, then that's cool.

I really don't think we should change the time each FC lasts. If you think you could only last a month, then make the month your first personal goal. Get to that point and then see how much you can push yourself in the next month. Or do it week by week. Everyone is always encouraged to post regular updates and if you think you might have trouble making it to the end then why not say to yourself that without fail you're going to post a detailed summary of your week's progress at the end of everyweek? I think it was NeonJesusFreak that did this in a past FC and seemed to have great success with it. If 3 months feels like a long period of time, then break it down into 12 blocks for yourself.

I think the idea of head to heads or mini 3 man teams could help with this. I've recently started helping one of my friends get into shape and I think one thing that has really helped him is me txting him all the time asking him how he got on at the gym, or asking when I'll see him there after work. If you know you've got someone else willing you on it's should hopefully give that extra bit of drive to get the job done.


I'll end my uber long post with another congratulations to all those that finished FC5. Well done guys.

[dasmike]

Not a fan of the money buy in. Just seems like another thing that people wouldn't get done on time and thus remove them from the FC.

I really like the idea of 4 teams with previous winners/vets as captains. Teams can be made by the judges following the submitting of before pictures in an attempt to make them even in regards to body types etc on each team. Think the IFL, but successful. Guys of similar build can talk smack to their counterpart on other teams. Then there is a winning team, and an overall winner.

I think the 4 team idea sounds good. If we could even organize 3 guys per team that would have 12 guys all serious about finishing. And then anyone else that signs up on top of the core members of those teams can get signed up and 'taken under the wing' of the other 3 team members. I think it would work out well having 2 or 3 vets on each team and then them helping the newer guys on the team. Would we have the numbers to do that?

[bigystyle]

i like the team idea as well. teams of 3-4 people

[FA-Qer]

We can get this going IFL style. Different weight classes on each team.

[dasmike]

We can get this going IFL style. Different weight classes on each team.

Lightweight right here! It might be hard to make up as ridiculous names as the IFL teams though....

[IE_Grappler]

We can get this going IFL style. Different weight classes on each team.

Here's proof that an idea can be stupid ans ingenious at the same time.
I back this idea!

[Lines]

We can get this going IFL style. Different weight classes on each team.

.......perhaps a draft too......



and maybe a "senior's division" aka - Couture division, for those over 35, or over 40...... :)

http://www.youthink.com/quiz_images/full_535362450.jpg

[Ray433]

Like I said, I think the teams should be arranged by the judges after pics are submitted. If they don't mind doing a bit more work. (not sarcasm, I appreciate the effort they put into this)

[conk2000]

If we do a long event with multiple mini-FC's in it, we should go New Year's to New Year's, with a checkpoint every 2 or three months.

[rocketman766]

.......perhaps a draft too......



and maybe a "senior's division" aka - Couture division, for those over 35, or over 40...... :)


I have never felt old before now....but wait, if I feel this good, keep getting better and better as the days roll on....I'm not old...I am just NEW and IMPROVED and well on my way to superiority! Im down for what ever the future FC throws at me...

[Lurch]

Just a quick suggestion: since Thanksgiving may have derailed the previous competition by ending the event in a pig-out day, instead use the next holiday to uplift the competition. Start the next one in early January, after people have had their vacations and are ready to commit to their New Year's resolution.

[bigystyle]

What I Like

1) Long Event with check points. Make it 6 months. Lets get serious about this competition. I'm all for this. It will benefit us all. Give a check point every 2 months. I dont mind the idea of a shorter one, but I like the longer option with check points more. I'm game for anything.

2) Teams of 4. A nice Mixture (maybe each team with 1 300+, 1 in shape, 2 general contestants)

3) Start first week of January (4th?). People will be ready to make some New Years Resolution.

I'm willing to help out with this FC as much as possible. We should start organizing this thing and make some decisions. Polls?

My involvement in this is important to me, I want to win one!

[IE_Grappler]

What I Like

1) Long Event with check points. Make it 6 months. Lets get serious about this competition. I'm all for this. It will benefit us all. Give a check point every 2 months. I dont mind the idea of a shorter one, but I like the longer option with check points more. I'm game for anything.

2) Teams of 4. A nice Mixture (maybe each team with 1 300+, 1 in shape, 2 general contestants)

3) Start first week of January (4th?). People will be ready to make some New Years Resolution.

I'm willing to help out with this FC as much as possible. We should start organizing this thing and make some decisions. Polls?

My involvement in this is important to me, I want to win one!
1) I don't like it, but wouldn't protest it.
2) Good idea
3) Great idea

[Ray433]

1) I don't like it, but wouldn't protest it.
2) Good idea
3) Great idea

I agree fully with this post

[bigystyle]

hope there is still interest in an FC soon.

[Ray433]

I'm back training harder than I did during the last 2 weeks of the FC

[buffdaddy444444]

i AHVENT READ THROUGH THE THREAD TO AVOID GETTING INFLUENCED

BUT

when i initially read the monetary thing, I was kind of putoff

this thing wasnt started as a REAL competition, meaning, you arent doing it for the PRIZE

the prize was your HEALTH

and, i gotta be honest, it kind of cheapens it for me

heres the way I look at it

this past competition has gotten approx 23 people to change their habits, if for only a small amount of time

six people put in tons of work

THATS 23 AND SIX MORE PEOPLE THAN WOULD HAVE DONE IT OTHERWISE, PROBABLY!!!!!

if we got ONE guy who totally transformed himself, THAT WOULD BE AN AMAZING ACCOMPLISHMENT

i look at this as a life changing event for some people

look what pickled was able to do

bottom line is, for me at least, a monetary buy in would cheapen it, and it isnt what it is supposed to be about

just my opinion

if one person realizes goals they wouldnt have otherwise, its a success in my book

Diddy Out

[buffdaddy444444]

having said that, if thats what the majority of people want to do, Ill support it

as gay as it sounds, that fucking trophy would be ALOT more motivation for me than 120 bucks would

[rocketman766]

having said that, if thats what the majority of people want to do, Ill support it

as gay as it sounds, that fucking trophy would be ALOT more motivation for me than 120 bucks would

After reading this, I hope Buffdaddy would approve.... but on the spreadsheet I made last night to track my progress, I put the picture of the fitness star.... keeping my eye on it until I get to hold it...

[rocketman766]

wow...after reading that...i really sound like a kiss ass....but thats ok, because I will be a lean, mean kiss ass!!!!!

[Derek3x]

After reading this, I hope Buffdaddy would approve.... but on the spreadsheet I made last night to track my progress, I put the picture of the fitness star.... keeping my eye on it until I get to hold it...

Nice!

I make spreedsheets too. I take to another level and have little graphs showing the increase in weight I use for the lifts of a certain routine. I find it very motivating to watch that little bar increase a few pounds every week.

[FA-Qer]

D- Bodyspace does this for you. Let's you track strength gains and tells you how many inches you added or lost. It has graphs and I think pie charts.


Pie...cake?? :o

[Derek3x]

D- Bodyspace does this for you. Let's you track strength gains and tells you how many inches you added or lost. It has graphs and I think pie charts.


Pie...cake?? :o


I like to create my own. I track each pound i lift for each set. Increases, and all kinds of shit. I am sure it does it too, but this way I create it and it keeps me more interested because its a creation of my own. Plus its quick and easy for me.

computer tech and all, lol

[FA-Qer]

I like to create my own. I track each pound i lift for each set. Increases, and all kinds of shit. I am sure it does it too, but this way I create it and it keeps me more interested because its a creation of my own. Plus its quick and easy for me.

computer tech and all, lol

I'm half tech at heart ;) so I live on excel. I keep track of everything on there. Work, person and even mma betting and fantasy fights.

War Excel!!!

:D

I do highly recommend bodyspace for the guys on here. It's another way for us to keep tabs on each other and make sure we're pushing each other.

[Ninja Style]

yea Bodyspace is pretty badass. I've had one for a while but I just now started using it to track my workouts, its pretty damn cool.

[FA-Qer]

DIDDY- We tossed the $$ idea halfway through the thread.

I was trying to get people talking and tossing shit out there.

[rocketman766]

I know its off topic, but its 2 am and I am bored....at work... so here is a screen shot of one of my spreadsheets...
http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg131/rocketman766/Picture1-3.png

[Ninja Style]

I know its off topic, but its 2 am and I am bored....at work... so here is a screen shot of one of my spreadsheets...
http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg131/rocketman766/Picture1-3.png

nice work rocket.

***Ninja steals Rocket's ideas and creates his own.

[buffdaddy444444]

thats pretty f'ing cool, IMO

good for you guys

go get it

[rocketman766]

back to topic.... I like the idea of getting people to do this shortly after new years (within the first 2 weeks) while everyone still wants to make good on that new years resolution. Maybe with the awesome amount of support they can get here, they will stick with it.... also...how do we get the word out to others who do not frequent this forum? sigs? links? ( I put a link in that spreadsheet...sent it to my brother so maybe he will follow it and join up to get in shape...)

[Derek3x]

Here is what mine look like. I threw some numbers in the one so you can see what one of the charts look like.

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/7700/screenshotswm8.jpg

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/8114/screenshots2xl3.jpg

[rocketman766]

sweet.... Nice work Derek. wonder if arnold had spreadsheets???

[Derek3x]

If he could have had spreadsheets he would have.

[Ray433]

Soooooooooooooooo

Are we going to decide anything regarding FCVI?

[Derek3x]

Soooooooooooooooo

Are we going to decide anything regarding FCVI?


No

Who was talking about that? We were talking about spreadsheets :p

[rocketman766]

threadshifters..... hmmmm, stuck at work again here, must be time to make a new spreadsheet...whats next, slides in powerpoint???

back on topic, still plugging away at the gym until we decide on the format for FC6....

[bigystyle]

this thing is definitly losing interest it seems.

[Derek3x]

this thing is definitly losing interest it seems.


No still lots of people interested. Not everyone wants to make a lot of changes though. Most suggestions have been made, now its up to possibly a poll or something to get it ironed out.

[conk2000]

this thing is definitly losing interest it seems.

I'm still in. That's 300 more pounds of readiness for the next FC.

[bigystyle]

No still lots of people interested. Not everyone wants to make a lot of changes though. Most suggestions have been made, now its up to possibly a poll or something to get it ironed out.

im good with anything..plus ive never finished one so I dont have any say ;)

[Baphomet3]

So, we need to lay out some specific goals for the competition and come up with a strategy to increase exposure and participation.

[Ninja Style]

I think we should focus on increasing our completion % with a specific goal of 12 finishers and here is how I think we can use our team concept to help achieve this.

We need 4 Champs to step up and captain a team. So lets say PP,Baph, FAQer and Godsnatas each captain a team.

Then we take any vets who have completed a FC and set them up on each team (Me, Rocket, War Munchies, Ray, and anyone else that has completed one before)

The idea is that each team will have 1 champ and 1-2 FC vets on a team. So once we've figured that part out then we take anyone who has entered an FC but not finished one or anyone thats new and we assign them to one of the 4 teams.

This way we can create a mini support system on each team. The team captain and the other vets on the team would have to make sure that everyone is still on track and keep the team motivated. I didn't want to put the entire burden of managing the team on the captains so I figured thats where the vets can come in and help too.

I came up with the number 12 because it would double the number of finishers from FCV and I think its realistic given our team concept. I think its reasonable to expect that each team can put forward 3 finishers at a minimum.

Once we have teams set up we can do head to head matchups and such for extra motivation. I'm not sure how we can set up teams yet but we can decide on that later if we decide to take this route.

Thoughts? Ideas?

[IE_Grappler]

Love the idea. Now lets get a start date set!

[Baphomet3]

Not a bad idea . . . the IFL concept meets e-fitness.

I'm down.

[goDsnataS]

Sure. I'm willing to do anything to help. We should shoot higher than 12, though. Maybe 20-30.

[Ray433]

Sounds great to me Ninja Style. I'm stoked for the next comp and don't plan to let Christmas be an excuse for slacking.

[rocketman766]

As a 3 time competitor and finisher, 2 time Top 3 finisher, I will gladly be a coach/assistant coach/helper/team mate.....whatever it takes.

[goDsnataS]

Decisions need to be made. FC5 sign up thread was posted 2 weeks before. It's almost 2 weeks until the end of the year. I suggest we post the sign up thread on the 22nd in order to get the resolution people involved. That should help with the numbers... let's strike while the iron is hot. Jan. 5 - March 30.

[FA-Qer]

I like it.

I wouldn't be able to post pics on the 5th as I will probably be in NY for my birthday. Shouldn't be a problem since posting befores late and afters early has always been accepted.

I'd be down with heading a team if it is what's decided.

[Ninja Style]

Awesome, so far this IFL team concept is looking good. Baph, Godsnatas and FAQer have commited to captaining teams.

Now we just need one more captain *cough* pickedpunk *cough*

Me, Rocket and Ray are on as vets/assistant coach etc. Maybe we can get Lines to join on too.

I appreciate you guys for stepping up, we all know that this shit ain't easy.

[Ninja Style]

Decisions need to be made. FC5 sign up thread was posted 2 weeks before. It's almost 2 weeks until the end of the year. I suggest we post the sign up thread on the 22nd in order to get the resolution people involved. That should help with the numbers... let's strike while the iron is hot. Jan. 5 - March 30.

I was thinking Jan 11 - April 5. That will give us some more time to get this organized. Any other suggestions about start dates? I'll post a poll once we have some more ideas.

[conk2000]

I can do it, I was in FC3 but didn't finish due to no money to buy healthy shit.

[bigystyle]

im down with it. im going to finish this one with some big #'s

[bigystyle]

I was thinking Jan 11 - April 5. That will give us some more time to get this organized. Any other suggestions about start dates? I'll post a poll once we have some more ideas.


how do want to pick teams?

I think first step is a sign up thread to see who is going to be in this thing. Im in

[goDsnataS]

How about a sign up thread on the 22nd and we form teams from the 5th to the 11th?

We need more head to head challenges... they really drove previous FC's. They should be very public and have brutal consequences for the loser (sig bet?), all in good fun. I'm talking vets here… I don't want to scare away any new entrants. Just to give people a reason to tune in... some drama.

[FA-Qer]

Let get a list of Champs, top three finishers, vet/finishers, vet/non finishers, and new entries.

Sound logical?

I think we can sort it out by that to get teams with an even amount of experience.

This has a Celebrity Fit Club feel to it ;)

[Ninja Style]

Heres what I've got so far. Please feel free to add anyone or yourself if I miss you.

Champs: FAQer, Baphomet, PP and Godsnatas

TOP 3 Finishers:

FC 1
1st: Pickledpunk
2nd: CatSmasher
3rd: HeavyStriker

FC 2
1st: Pickledpunk
2nd: afeola11
3rd: Double00Zero

FC 3
1st: FA-Q (new alias FA-Qer)
2nd: Baphomet
3rd: The Phantom

FC 4
1st: Baphomet
2nd: Lines
3rd: rocketman766

FC 5
1st: Godsnatas
2nd: FAQer
3rd: rocketman766

Vets who have successfully completed a FC:
Ninja Style
KingofLA
DasMike
Ray433
Math is Hard
Chitown Hitman
J-Roth
Shinobi
Throatstomp

Entered but not Finished:
IE Grappler
bigystyle

Add yourself where ever you fall, thats all I could think of at the moment.

[neonjesusfreak]

3 time competitor, 1 time finisher.

FC #2 I was just lazy and bailed. 4th place finish in FC #3 (shakes fist at Phantom) and FC #5 I just lost focus with the new baby and all the fun that brings.

I am looking foward to FC #6 and I like this idea. Sign me up.

[Baphomet3]

I think we might also need a council with voting rights or something so we can get shit done quickly and make decisions via thread or PM.

Incidentally, Fitty Sent wasn't here when I got home from work Sunday night. Left a note, but the tear drops blurred out much of what was undoubtedly a heartfelt plea to leave the country with her.

Anybody have any news on her whereabouts?

[Ninja Style]

I think we might also need a council with voting rights or something so we can get shit done quickly and make decisions via thread or PM.

thats cool. But who all gets to be on the council?

[Ray433]

The Council should be the judges I think.

As a 2 time competitor/ 1 time finisher I am ready to make an impact in the next comp and will do anything I can to help.

[Ninja Style]

I think the judges should be a part of the council but I think anyone that has finished an FC should have some say as well.

We just have to be proactive and stay on top of this.

[Ray433]

Sounds good to me. I think as long as we keep active with the planning for FC6 it will stay fresh in people's minds and give them a little extra willpower over christmas

[rocketman766]

Ok, I am in (DUH!!!!) and ready to assume what ever role is needed.

Is it going too far to send out a PM to the regulars and those who want to join and have a hard time keeping up with this? Maybe send it right after New Years? Hit them when they have a fresh New Years resolution on thier mind....

As far as the one-on-ones.... who ever I go against...BETTER BRING IT!!!!!!! that is all for now...

[Ninja Style]

Where has PP been?

If he captains a team then we'll have our 4 team captains set.

After that we need to check in and get a list of vets that are willing to compete again and then start aligning the teams. Not sure how to do that exactly, probably best to handle that in PM's.

Then we pick a start date.

Then we post a sign up thread and then the teams can recruit.

and in about 30 minutes I'm going to the gym to blast the shit out of my shoulders.

[FA-Qer]

Let's do this shit. I'm dedicating the next FC to the FA-Qer that is being laid to rest. F my Ex, F my Ex-Ex, and F fatty foods.

I'm declaring war on anyone and anything that stands in my way of being happy.

[bigystyle]

You're going to want me on your team.

I am going to come in to this thing about 25 lbs+ down from the end of the last FC if I keep doing what Im doing.

[IE_Grappler]

Awesome to hear bigy!
I'm eating like crap right now. Don't see that changing a whole lot before January. I'll just try to eat clean when I can, and bust ass when I'm in the gym.

[Derek3x]

Let's do this shit. I'm dedicating the next FC to the FA-Qer that is being laid to rest. F my Ex, F my Ex-Ex, and F fatty foods.

I'm declaring war on anyone and anything that stands in my way of being happy.


Fugging right! I love the new attitude!

[rocketman766]

Let's do this shit. I'm dedicating the next FC to the FA-Qer that is being laid to rest. F my Ex, F my Ex-Ex, and F fatty foods.

I'm declaring war on anyone and anything that stands in my way of being happy.

THAT GUY IS MY HERO!!!!! quoting which ever one said it...Goldie or Rogan...??

[Derek3x]

THAT GUY IS MY HERO!!!!! quoting which ever one said it...Goldie or Rogan...??

Rogan about Couture

[goDsnataS]

You're going to want me on your team.

I am going to come in to this thing about 25 lbs+ down from the end of the last FC if I keep doing what Im doing.
Are you still hitting the treadmill daily? Are you doing any king of strength training? If not, I would recommend finding a pair of, or even a single light kettlebell. Even if only 15-20 lbs. That and bodyweight exercises and you're set. No gym required. Trust me, I swear by these things.

[Ray433]

So...........................

Are we going to try to work this out before everyone gets too busy with the holidays?

[Lines]

My workouts/exercise has tailed off (probably will start again on January 1 - might join a gym for some variety), but I am still eating super clean...and enjoying it.

I was just thinking, at the start of 2008 (weighed 199-200) up until March I was still drinking soda, eating potato chips, pretzels, didn't shy away from a pizza, lots of sugar in the coffee..........now still eating lots of fruits, greens, drinking tea........eating healthy meat (my better-half drains all the fat out)....etc.

[IE_Grappler]

Let's get a start dat enailed down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[rocketman766]

My suggestion would be Jan 8 to April 3. Thats 12 weeks if we stick with the traditional time frame. I still want to hear more on the longer FCs with check points. Since it is hard to get pics in sometimes for some people, if we do the checkpoints, just have the guys post bodyfat, weight, etc....stats.

[Ninja Style]

If you guys don't mind, I'll go ahead and post a poll on start dates.

I really like Jan 8 - April 3. So I'm gonna post a poll to see if everyone is up for that one.

Has anyone heard if PP is willing to captain a team? If not someone else has to step up.

[pickledpunk]

I am not sure of my availability to champion a team of manage the next FC (hoping FAQ will pick it up as the next champion).

I am getting dragged pretty heavily into some sports politics in town and it looks like I am going to have to get involved with the World Junior Curling Championship, which runs mid-March (last two weeks I have had 7 meetings after work). I go from the World Juniors into Olympics mode (which I am already heavily involved with).

I still check in on the site but I think I have maybe 5 posts in the last week.

Sucks when real life gets in the way.

[Ray433]

I think you have set us all on a solid course by example pickled, so no worries.

[Lines]

I am not sure of my availability to champion a team of manage the next FC (hoping FAQ will pick it up as the next champion).

I am getting dragged pretty heavily into some sports politics in town and it looks like I am going to have to get involved with the World Junior Curling Championship, which runs mid-March (last two weeks I have had 7 meetings after work). I go from the World Juniors into Olympics mode (which I am already heavily involved with).

I still check in on the site but I think I have maybe 5 posts in the last week.

Sucks when real life gets in the way.

The way time flies, the Olympics will be here before you know it.

[drx604]

Are we doing an ifl thing with weight classes? Or just having captains pick teams?

[Lines]

I ate some chestnuts today (however they were not roasted on an open fire)...that is all...

[goDsnataS]

Incidentally, Fitty Sent wasn't here when I got home from work Sunday night. Left a note, but the tear drops blurred out much of what was undoubtedly a heartfelt plea to leave the country with her.

Anybody have any news on her whereabouts?

She arrived on Tuesday. Actually thats when I checked the mail, could have been here sooner... been a busy couple of weeks.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/goDsnataS666/img1230165341733.jpg



She told me all about it, Baph. Shits fucked up. No means no, bro.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/goDsnataS666/img1230125199823.jpg

She felt a lot better after a thourough desanitization/counseling... I think She's gonna be alright.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/goDsnataS666/img1230125200545.jpg

[rocketman766]

Damnit... I MUST get my hands on that trophy!!!!!!!!!!!! Won't stop till I win it all!